Comments on: Euroleague Top16 Week #1 Notes http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/ Euroleague Blog Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:29:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.3 By: sJacas http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11863 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:37:00 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11863 I’m not sure Krstic is the top center either. (You probably missed the “in no particular order”.)

CSKA is creating so many easy baskets through Teodosic, Khryapa and Kirilenko, that Krstic is getting plenty of great looks inside. Put him on a team where he has to work harder for his own shot and things will look differently. Nevertheless, there’s not much to complain about his performance so far.

Would be interesting to see CSKA with a shotblocking presence like Begic or N’Dong.

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By: such sweet thunder http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11860 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:17:00 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11860 I have a tough time with your selection of Kristic as best center. I can’t help but feel that CSKA may be a more complete team with a Begic or N’Dong type manning the paint. Kristic’s skills and basketball smarts are undeniable but if CSKA loses, which looks like a hell of an if right now, the opposing team is going to drop between 80 and 100 on them. I suppose that’s not really a counter argument to Kristic being the best center, more of an argument that, given CSKA’s scoring prowess, another center may be better on their roster.

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By: Euroleague Preview: Reyes to the Rescue http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11859 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:18:09 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11859 [...] In The Game made the very astute point that Ramunas Siskauskas presents a matchup problem at the two spot for most teams, so if Efes counters with Tarence Kinsey, that battle could be epic. None of this means that CSKA won’t be able to score easily enough to win the game handily against Efes’ flimsy interior defense, but I would be surprised if this is a blowout. [...]

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By: CT42 http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11852 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:08:00 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11852 They misunderstood obviously as player who will come to NBA in the future. On the other hand, just few GMs have idea about what’s really going on out there, for example Spurs. As they generally don’t know about the game here, their best player understanding heavily depended on the player who performed well against team USA, for instance Papas was the answer few years ago.

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By: V. http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11851 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:59:00 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11851 My top10 by position would go like this:

1. Diamantidis( best PG without question and unique in many ways)
    Spanoulis   ( or MacCalebb? That’s the big dilemma for me).

2. Navarro  (obviously)
    Langford(the best behind Navarro right now)

3. Kirilenko(monster)
    Eidson  (better than Kinsey for sure Mr. SJ)  :)

4. Teletovic(despite Caja’s poor regular season, he has made miracles)
    Khryapa(Only Kirilenko and Diamantidis overmatch in his quality at both ends of the floor)

5. Krstic           (regular season MVP in my opinion)
    Schortsanitis(Bourousis and Batiste are just after, the rest you mentioned SJ are way behind i think)

I had more expectations from David Andersen this year. Let’s hope he elevates his performance from now on where the crucial games are.
I also think that an underrated player that could be in top10 guards in Europe is Jamont Gordon. Obviously he has his issues and i don’t know, perhaps i think he is better than he actually is, but generally in my opinion he is underrated.

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By: sJacas http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11850 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:11:00 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11850 “Would be nice to see him play at the highest level in Europe but then
again it’d be a shame to see him buried in a deep rotation, which is a
risk.”

That is true and kind of the ultimate blessing/problem of European basketball.

On the one hand we love the super teams go head to head and play 40 minutes of otherwordly intensity, thanks to their roster depth.

On the other hand, send a Real Madrid bench warmer like Velickovic back to Partizan and he’s a key player and one of the many faces of the competiton. The list goes on. I surely like the competition as it is now, but every coin has two sides.

Anyway, I like Davis’ a lot. Has been the ACB’s statistically most effective player ahead of Gustavo Ayon in each of the last two seasons.

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By: sJacas http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11848 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:55:00 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11848 This season may be a blessing in disguise for Jonas.

Last season he made huge profit off of playing with strong pick and roll guards. The large majority of his baskets was assisted, hence his high field goal percentage and hyper-efficient per minute stats. (The other part of that was rebounding).

This season he’s playing with Tyrese Rice as the main ballhandler, good scorer but continously ignores the roll man. He’s having to work for his shot more and that seems to pay off recently. There’s no reason he can’t be a good lowpost player. He showed glimpses of that in the U19 tournament, but against far inferior competition.

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By: Rob Scott http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11847 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:53:00 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11847 Paul Davis is balling for Cajasol. Would not be at all surprised to see one of the big clubs snapping him up for next season, though his defense isn’t great. Would be nice to see him play at the highest level in Europe but then again it’d be a shame to see him buried in a deep rotation, which is a risk.

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By: such sweet thunder http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11846 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:18:00 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11846 Two other likely options:

3) The GMs didn’t take the survey: GMs may have handed the survey off to an assistant, who handed it off to an intern, who spent three minutes looking up the “answers” online.

4) The GMs are lying: This question was unique on the survey because it asked GMs to reveal proprietary information if they interpreted the question as asking for the best European prospect for joining the NBA, which apparently some of them did.

As an aside, have you guys checked in on Valanciunas lately? His game is starting to gel, and it looks to me at least like he’s made relatively big strides over the past couple of months. It should go without saying that he’s not in a discussion about the best internationals not in the NBA — he’s basically showboating on a team, Rytas, that’s so bad they could make me dislike basketball. But I’ll bet Toronto is pretty happy.

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By: sJacas http://www.in-the-game.org/euroleague-top16-week-1-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-11845 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:25:00 +0000 http://www.in-the-game.org/?p=17694#comment-11845 Kirilenko at first spot, then Navarro and Diamantidis are obvious choices, partly for the level they still play at, partly for the successes they’ve had in the past.

We’re always too slow to accept new faces. I’ll just put my positional top five out there, in no particular order.

PG
Diamantidis
Teodosic
McCalebb
Huertas
Spanoulis (?)
N.Calathes (?)

SG
Navarro
Shved
Langford
Carroll (?)
Perkins (?) (if fit, if considered shooting guard … he’s a 1/2)

SF
Kirilenko
Eidson
Kinsey (definitely)
Siskauskas (still? I think he’s formidable)
Hairston (?)
Mickeal (?)
Weems (?)

I would love to write Preldzic here, but he’s not delivering. Now that I write those names down, the good European small forwards are all going overseas, aren’t they.

PF
Lorbek
Mirotic
Khryapa
Freeland (?)
Macvan (?)
Teletovic (?)
Eliyahu (?)
Fotsis (?)
Savanovic (?)

C
Krstic
Big Sofo
Bourousis (off the radar a bit since he’s playing for such a dysfunctional team)
Batiste (?)
Paul Davis (?)
Tomic/Begic(?)
N’Dong (?) (Not conventional wisdom, eh. Have a bit a crush on N’Dong. I know he’s not a complete center. But a perfect defender.)

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